Rabbi Tzvi Kushelevsky shlita on Miracle Stories

I heard from a student in his yeshiva a variation on this (by Rabbi Yosef Tropper):

Rav Chaim Volozhin was questioned the following question.  He said: I don’t get it that you tell over osos and mofsim about the Vilna Gaon as well, so why are we any different.  We’re telling over osos and mofsim about our rebbe.  So, Rav Chaim Volozhin said: There’s a stira in the gemara.  On the one hand it says that all the tannaim and amoraim were capable of doing techiyas hameisim and great things, so we see even in the time of the gemara there was a discussion about the greatness, the kabbalistic and spiritual greatness of the tannaim and amoraim, but yet, at the same time, there’s a gemara in Brachos that says there was a certain man, “hahu gavrah”, there was certain individual, we don’t know who it was, and he was raising a girl who was an orphan and there was no mother to nurse the baby, and a miracle happened and the man was able to nurse the child and keep her alive.  And, the gemara says that this miracle happened.  The gemara comments that this is discussed and “kama meguneh” and this miracle is disgusting and an insult.

Rav Chaim Volozhin said: What’s going on over here?  Is it a great thing that a miracle happened, or is it a bad thing?  So, he says like this: If you’re known for your Torah and chesed and you’re known to be a great person and that’s who you are, and then on the side you happen to do some miracles, okay.  So, then great.  It fits in with the profile.  A person is a tanna and an amora, and he happens to do miracles on the side, fine.  But the gemara isn’t filled with miracles; the gemara is filled with lumdus, with learning Torah and yiras Shamayim.  But if you’re just “hahu gavrah”, you’re some random guy.  Noone knows anything about his Torah, then all of a sudden we just start talking about these osos and mofsim, these miracles that he does, then that’s worthless.  And, I’ll finish the sentence, and no one misunderstands it.  He wasn’t insulting anybody, but he was saying that if you’re known as a gadol baTorah and yiras Shamayim and you teach Torah and mitzvos and middos and then it happens to be on the side there’s some osos and mofsim that come out because a person that accepts Torah on himself, Hashem changes the world around for him, that’s great, that’s wonderful, that’s the Vilna Gaon.  But, if you’re just telling me stories about nobody, about a nobody who all of a sudden does osos and mofsim and that’s the reason that you want to be close with him and spend time with him, then that doesn’t justify it.  And, that is as Litvish as it comes.

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מילות השיר:

 

פעם, הייתי רק ילד קטן
,אבל מה שאז קרה
.לא אשכח לעולם
בן אדם, מישהו גדול וחזק

חטף מידי ארנק
שנתן לי אבא

אוי, אבא מה תגיד
,האם תסלח, האם תקפיד
זה כואב לאכזב, אבא’לה

CHORUS:

אבא אמר לי
,בן, אתה יקר לי
,קח נא את ידי, זה סימן לאהבה
אבא אמר לי
,בן, אתה יקר לי
וכך אתה נשאר לי לעולם

שנים, עברו ואני כבר מבין
יש אבא במרומים
,אוהב את הבנים
וגם אם אני לא הבן המושלם
נופל לפעמים וקם
וקורא לאבא

אוי, אבא מה תגיד
,האם תסלח, האם תקפיד
לא רוצה לאכזב, אבא’לה

CHORUS:

אבא, תאמר לי
,בן, אתה יקר לי
,קח נא את ידי, תן סימן לאהבה
אבא, תאמר לי
,בן, אתה יקר לי
אתה נשאר לי אבא לעולם

Toldos: Did Middle-Aged Yitzchak Avinu Marry a Small Child? No!

Critics often wonder about 40-year-old Yitzchak Avinu marrying Rivka when she was three years old. Obviously, a minor cannot give legal assent to marriage (there are other opinions of Rivka’s age, but each opinion in Chazal is valid)!

Truth is, Rivka was by then a mature adult in every sense.

See Tosfei Harosh explaining Sanhedrin 69b, who reasons that the ancients’ bodies developed earlier. Rivka was giving lots of water to camels (whose humps seemed unaware of the קפיצת הדרך). The Torah praises her for being בתולה ואיש לא ידעה. Her mother and brother asked if she would leave with Eliezer.

Yitzchak prayed for her to conceive when she was 12 years and a day, per Rashi 25:26; hence, she was considered well “barren” by then. A pre-pubescent girl isn’t physiologically “barren”.

Quoting via the Shittah (B.K. 109b):

…ובדורות הראשונים היו מולידים בני שמונה שנים כדאיתא בפרק בן סורר ומורה והיה להם סימן גדלות קודם לכן אף על גב דשתי שערות קודם הפרק הם שומא שמא היה להם שערות גדולות וזקן קודם שמונה שנים וכן האשה היו לה דדים גדולים ושער הרבה…

הרא”ש ז”ל.

Gemara Sanhedrin ibid. provides additional examples, as well.

(This is close to Chazon Ish Even Haezer 12:8 on the laws of Tznius being linked to bodily maturity, not chronological age, but he seems to write only regarding dinim derabanan. Reality changes and reality matters.)

Note: Inspired by Rabbi Yehoshua Greinemann’s notes on the Parsha —

ויעתר יצחק לד’ לנכח אשתו וגו’ (כ”ה כ”א), עי’ רש”י כ”ה כ”ו שהמתין להתפלל  עד שהיתה בת י”ג  {ור”ל י”ב ויום אחד, וקרי ליה י”ג כדאשכחן טובא כיו”ב, ואף דורות הראשונים ילדו קודם לכן והיו מדאוריתא גדולים לכל דבר עי’ סנהדרין ס”ט, ועי”ש בר”ן ובתוס’ הרא”ש ב”ק ק”ט, לא רצה להעתיר על דבר שאינו מצוי, ועי’ תוס’ יבמות ס”ד א’ שהמתין לה עד י”ב שנה.


Sadly, this doesn’t help for the founder of Mohammedanism…